Buying for "advantage"

[Matt Varnish]

Well, since someone mentions "old models" my spidey senses tingle, let me tell you my story about my old land speeders.. first of all they are the 1st edition ones, the infamous flying chairlifts, and they are about 60% the size of the current ones. I was in a tourney, and there was a large piece of terrain with a pipe all the way through it, and I decided that since my models fit, including bases, they would turbo boost into the pipe. My opponent, who was also marines, was cheesed off since his didnt fit. Whats the solution? I told him he could go into them if he wanted to.

Now, with true LOS, a smaller hive tyrant COULD get cover saves from termagaunts theoretically, but its just best to not take them, so all arguments are threfore null and void.. its as if your tyrant is actually taller. Or, you could do what i did for my Dreadnoughts (also old school): mount them on a heroic looking base, which is a bit taller up (on top of rubble, bodies, skulls, what have you) rather than on just the plain base, then it would actually be closer to the real height. Again problem solved. About the only cheesy thing for the smaller hive tyrant i could see is if you try and claim cover saves from infantry models, and do not have a gun. See, because TLOS comes to bite you in the ass when it comes to your model seeing other things, if it is lower to the ground, its tougher to see things: My Squat IG army has this problem for every single model, including tanks. And in the 7 years Ive been playing them, guess how many times the smaller height has ever come into play? 3 whole times.

So, in the end, model what you want, just make sure you're not the TFG by trying to claim cover saves because YOUR model is shorter. Let the other guy be TFG

[Joyous_Oblivion]

True line of sight would be better if they added a simple rule that all infantry models can see over adjacent walls at a certain height, like Warmachine does.

As for the old model discussion? I don't think they could ever restrict older models, it would kill what the hobby is all about, and GW has repeatedly said they do not care about the competitive tournament scene, their focus is the hobby.

[Henshini]

I heard a rumour once about a tourney in the UK that was only allowing current sculpts of models to be played.

[Orbital]

I heard a rumour once about a tourney in the UK that was only allowing current sculpts of models to be played.

FEAR NOT, CANADIANS! GAME SUMMIT SHALL NEVER WALK THAT PATH!

[LUTNIT]

I heard a rumour once about a tourney in the UK that was only allowing current sculpts of models to be played.

Not to that extreme but far more commonly is tournies requires models to be on "current" base sizes for models, thus all people running old terminators or killa kans where required to rebase their models. Would suck for my rough riders since I built them on bike bases but the official current models still come with rectangular cavalry bases.

[SpAzFeX]

I don't think that will be construed as an issue, Lutnit. The rounded bike bases do not add any foreseeable advantage, and also keeps a cohesive feel to the basing style of the army. I always found those few instances of square/rectangular bases in a round-based game a little odd.

Also,

FEAR NOT, CANADIANS! GAME SUMMIT SHALL NEVER WALK THAT PATH!

This clearly indicates Orbital consists solely of win.

[Crablezworth]

I belive the rounded bases are longer than the rectangular ones.

[SpAzFeX]

Yes, they are slightly longer, but that length may be more of a hindrance than an advantage. The overall length of the base will have no impact on the current deployment restrictions or movement. For example, in standard Pitched Battle you can deploy up to a maximum of 12" from your table edge. Whether your base is squared or round, it will not impact the total distance one needs to travel to close with the enemy. As a hindrance, it means a larger unit footprint might be easier to assault.

A possible exploit it to line the unit up end-to-end with maximum spacing to create a wall, but even then the additional length will not make a terribly drastic difference, and the tactic is reserved for the incredibly brave/insane/lucky. It might also be exploited to claim two objectives with one unit, however, a single assault into that unit will quickly remedy that, let alone the shooting phase that precedes it!

[Crablezworth]

I agree it's not a big difference.