General interest in 40K lost?

[Berserker]

I think it's important to find a group of like-minded players. I think about it like roleplaying: My play style isn't compatible with a lot of gaming groups (story and gameplay come before rules and rolls) so I'm very careful who I play with. The same just now applies to 40k. It's a shame we need to operate this way but, given the balance and interpretive issues, that's the reality with which we need to deal.

When I play against people I know aren't douchebags who use decent lists (not garbage but not crazy overpowered) I know I'm going to have a good time. I like going to events like GS because I'm prepared for crazy lists and possibly some douchebaggery but might meet a new person to add to my regular group of opponents. If you have a really good game at a tournament you know the person is quality (or is compatible with your style of play).

Aye, I agree with you 100% I myself have my own little group and they know I am the type that likes to chill tkae my time and small talk a lot while playing so the type of player that likes to play get the game done short and sweet doesn't ususaly like to play with me.

As far as tournament is concerned that only tournament of 40K I've been to are Deep space golden marines as like I stated above I like to take my time and relax so tournaments are not my thing.

Anyways back to what you said Chimera I give you a gigantic +1.

[An00bis]

Ive been working a full time job and been infatuated with Heavy Gear. ive been painting and collecting an scratch building and making terrain for that scale. after several months of not looking at 40k models. I thought, wow, how did I ever lug all that stuff around? the models seem so BIG now, its almost silly. but I still love it. ive managed to get one or two games in recently, and I surprised myself with what I remembered. Its like riding a bike

Ive been a little disinterested with the way the codices have been going, but tbh the new necron book sortof got my attention. I guess what im really waiting for is, of course, the fabled Third Tau Codex. I got tired of complaining about how the rules are restrictive and how the armies are unbalanced. but I think its almost at the point where everyones army is ridiculous, so it will even out eventually. once I can have 5, 3-wound crisis suits in a squad who can fire ten plasma shots at 24" while moving ill definitely be back into things.

[Crablezworth]

I got tired of complaining about how the rules are restrictive and how the armies are unbalanced. but I think its almost at the point where everyones army is ridiculous, so it will even out eventually. once I can have 5, 3-wound crisis suits in a squad who can fire ten plasma shots at 24" while moving ill definitely be back into things.

What's funny is if you mentioned 5 3-wound crisis suits pumping out ten plasma shots only a few years ago it would sound ludicrous and now it sounds completely possible and plausible. 2012 is probably gonna be the year of the tau.

[Didgeridoo101]

Don't all rumors point more towards 2012 being the rebirth of Chaos and such? Anyways if GW brings all codcies to the same level of craziness as they seem to be going I guess it won't seem to bad anymore....only hope they don't expect to increase the playing surface to deal with some of the issues

[crisaron]

With the big FFG book serie, I am up to my head in fluff and stories, but I lost all will to play the game, I still paint once in a while. Stil have a plan for my glass display in my room.

I play 3 games of 40k RPG a week, the unirverse is nice.

[Mael]

Although I haven't really looked at the Necron codex because I completely lost interest in 40K since oh maybe 6 or 7 months ago, GW seems to not really bring all codicies at the same level. All the marine codicies are reidiculously good, the same cannot be said about the xenos codicies. DE codex is ok but not all that broken or overpowered. The Tyrannids codex was cute but really not great (and more then a little insulting to players who had bought alot of carnifexs only to be told that they now suck and that they now needed to fork over more money for mawlocks and such). When you compare them to lets say, Space Wolves, Blood Angels or GK.... There is no comparasson really.

So here's the point I'm trying to make. GW isn't bringing all new codicies to the same level. Imperial codicies are alot better then the rest. In the end, the problem isn't the 5th Ed rules, it's the damned codicies. The same thing was found to be true about 7th ed fantasy (Imho). And I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm tired of having to go up against marines all the time. GW has gotten this to the point where they aren't even respecting their fluff anymore as almost 90% of players are playing a marine variant. So much for the soldiers of the Emperor bringing the hurt to the xenos. All the Xenos have to do now is watch the imperium punch itself in the face and kill off the survivors....


End of rant.

[crisaron]

A very funny moment for me was someone asked me why I was using chaos rules for my berzerkers and not space wolfs... really? I have like thousands of pts in chaos and I should use marines codices?

[Crantor]

I really dislike it when people link what's popular or actually sells to the fluff. Saying that marines are only a small fraction of the Imperium's military might so then GW should adjust production and sales to reflect the fluff is silly if not ridiculous. Marines will always be the core. Always. Get over that part. My gaming group has 4 core players and 3 other guys that are irregulars and we all play something different. I'm the marine player. With the exception of a part time BT player and an even less frequent SW player. So I'm lucky that I get to face a decent variety. At last year's GS I face one BT, one Codex marine, one Dark Eldar and finally a Space Wolf player. I was playing BAs. But there where plenty of "other" codices out there.

Look at it like this. Two camps. Marine codices and variants. And everything else. The odds of finding a Marine player are higher than say a DE player or a Tau player but finding anything but a marine player is likely even.

[Mael]

I agree that you shouldn't necessarily link the sales to fluff... IF all things are equal. If all codicies were equal and just as strong compared to one another and then people would chose to buy more marines, fine. What GW is doing is making marines so much better then everything else so people will buy more marines out of a desire to kick ass, not necessarily because SW or BA are cool.

Anyways, my 2 cents.

[Didgeridoo101]

I don't know if SW and BA are actually better then say DE but I would say easier to play and understand maybe. From what I hear from DE players is that the new codex is great but has a steep learning curve you have to get into just like the new imperial codecies are great but don't have the learning curve so people can master them easier. I mean aside from Grey Knights I don't have any issues playing against any type of Marines with my Eldar. My biggest challenge seems to be them Tyranid things to be honest. I think there's just a stigma with marines because about 50% of 40Kers either play them as a main army or have a secondary Marine army they collect and occasionally like to go on a stint with. I used to despise Marines when I first started playing when 3rd ed started because they were my only opponents! I had a group of 5 friends including me and it was Space Marines, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Choas Marines and my Eldar. They all had an easier time getting into grooves with their armies while I stuggled because it comes with a different learning curve.

Just my opinion but I haven't found it to be untrue.